tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post3580884160390561638..comments2024-03-26T22:36:52.981+00:00Comments on Modern Printmakers: Tales from ebay: John Hall Thorpe's DawnHaji babahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10619515066447546979noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-30995808382769433692011-10-21T21:54:06.246+01:002011-10-21T21:54:06.246+01:00Yes, he has given me an idea for a new post: woodb...Yes, he has given me an idea for a new post: woodblock trolls. But it will have to wait untill the current series has run its course.<br /><br />Yes, I was gobsmacked by the price as well. There is so much you can do with £182.77. Buy Greece, for instance. Or pour it down the drain. Or spend it all on sweeties.<br /><br />Why would anyone anywhere want it? You see, of course, the old devil has a new one up. Actually, quite nice. But I'm going to abandon 'Tales from ebay'. I'm in danger of busting a gut laughing.<br /><br />HBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-46418725612370897292011-10-21T19:43:54.817+01:002011-10-21T19:43:54.817+01:00WOW !!! What a great compliment of the anonymous G...WOW !!! What a great compliment of the anonymous Gremlin to think you are really capable of influencing the ignorant and Ebay prices. It was sold notwithstanding at a silly price. I profhesied we wouldn't see the return of good sense and defeat of vanity in our life times.Gerriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01985746967465520617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-76059662946720890432011-10-20T10:44:59.477+01:002011-10-20T10:44:59.477+01:00Woodblock Gremlin, it has nothing to do with Ebay ...Woodblock Gremlin, it has nothing to do with Ebay or Ebay dealers! You are completely missing the point of both the articles and the comments. Ebay is a wonderful place for buying and selling. However, it is also a fool's paradise for the unsuspecting buyer who may not be able to see through the bluff and bluster. Nor does it have anything to do with the sellers, many are honest and many are scrupulous, some are amateurs selling off "stuff" and still others are devious and deceitful. Furthermore all art is not equal, even art by the same artist, and you would be laughed out of an art auction or fine arts lecture if you suggested that it wasn't so. All artists have good days and bad days, and for that reason there is good art and bad art, aesthetically my tastes are likely to be different from yours. There is no downward pressure on prices, in fact the contrary is true. More information (such as that provided by this blog) arms people with knowledge and ideas that they can use in order to buy. The problem is, you see it as a game of money. True collectors see it as something altogether different.<br />CliveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-36296551405837578342011-10-17T19:02:19.600+01:002011-10-17T19:02:19.600+01:00Don't be silly.Don't be silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-16314094832065065122011-10-17T18:16:06.099+01:002011-10-17T18:16:06.099+01:00WOW !!! you really don't like eBay or eBay dea...WOW !!! you really don't like eBay or eBay dealers. Or is this an attempt to put doubt in potential bidders' minds, so much so that they don't bid !! and some one gets it cheap !! even more downward pressure on prices; soon every thing will be worth your €1 - Woodblock GremlinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-89148736619152476292011-10-14T14:14:45.474+01:002011-10-14T14:14:45.474+01:00God, it's awful, the Germanics and Anglos coul...God, it's awful, the Germanics and Anglos could and did do much better even on their bad days. Insipid is the perfect adjective Anthony, but it's a bit brutal to compare it to Kirkpatrick. How can anyone compare?<br />CliveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-14954563332963585202011-10-13T20:31:36.726+01:002011-10-13T20:31:36.726+01:00Now, Gerrie, 'Dawn' was chosen for me by t...Now, Gerrie, 'Dawn' was chosen for me by the market and it was an opportunity too good to miss. The seller insists the print isn't faded. Apart from that, it was very interesting to see JHT attempting a subject that was quite clearly beyond him. The conception and the drawing is so poor, I am led to a number of conclusions but one of them is this - he knew Kirkpatrick's print. No, it's just too daft! The flower prints are very jolly but they are mass-produced and play at being artists prints. This is exactly why I am right to mock his efforts here. This is supposed to be an artist's print and includes a laughable arty title to emphasise the fact. The fact that he went on to be a commercial success was nice for him and amusing for us. I never said I would be fair to everybody. And 'Tales from ebay' is haji baba's revenge!<br /><br />CharlesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-52065933154638760492011-10-13T14:45:38.906+01:002011-10-13T14:45:38.906+01:00Kirkpatrick's print of the Thames is hard to t...Kirkpatrick's print of the Thames is hard to top, anyway!<br /><br />KlausAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-67051619297566488432011-10-13T10:02:18.037+01:002011-10-13T10:02:18.037+01:00Charles, it might have been wiser considering JHT ...Charles, it might have been wiser considering JHT a poster maker/designer. "Piccadilly" illuminating my point. As such his brave excursions beyond the popular (and beautiful) flower posters "created in the woodblock style" like this River Banks needn't be the subject of negative comparing with the more talented and proper printmakers. Of course he could draw (and print), but not as good as Kirckpatrick a.o. I think JTH earned his own very specific place among (aesthetic) British artists. Besides this copy is faded and dirty beyond recognition.<br />Also I am afraid we (you and I) won’t see the return of good sense in our lifetimes. Only catastrophe, a meteorite or a crisis (hmmm.....) might induce that.<br />I love my Marigolds which I was glad to buy at a sensible price. But to be honest quite a bit more then "just over €1".Gerriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01985746967465520617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195425069670824214.post-61902100301836670932011-10-13T00:21:39.897+01:002011-10-13T00:21:39.897+01:00Yes, it's pretty dismal. If it didn't have...Yes, it's pretty dismal. If it didn't have the name Hall Thorpe attached to it, it's hard to see that anybody would want to bother with it. Thoroughly insipid.Anthonynoreply@blogger.com